| Beyond the
Bush Bashing -- Chavez's Poetry and Prozac
Journalist Reveals Venezuelan Leader's Personal Demons
in Tell-All Book
David Puente,
http://abcnews.go.com/
VIDEO: Exclusiva
on Chavez's Private Life
16 de Marzo de 2007
March 15, 2007 — President Bush's Latin American
nemesis, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, makes headlines
lambasting Bush, criticizing his policies, even calling
him Beelzebub at the United Nations. Now, in an exclusive
interview on ABC News Now, investigative journalist
Olga Wornat reveals surprising details about the private
life of the Venezuelan leader — from his mental
heath and his childhood traumas to his spending habits
and his love life.
Wornat, one of Latin America's best known investigative
journalists, talks about the private side of this
very outspoken leader in her latest book, "Accursed
Chronicles."
Chavez's Turbulent Childhood
As a child, Wornat said, Chavez often took refuge
with his grandmother, fleeing a stormy relationship
with his parents. Wornat describes his parents as
overbearing and abusive and said he often fled to
his grandmother's house for refuge. "They would
punish him with beatings, taking a belt and beating
him. He'd escape to his grandmother's, who'd protect
him," Wornat said.
The claims in the book are indeed controversial, but
Wornat is no stranger to controversy. Her book "Our
Holy Mother" brought down Argentinean Archbishop
Edgardo Gabriel Storni over sex abuse allegations.
Her 2003 book "The Woman Boss," about Mexico's
former first lady Marta Sahagun de Fox, became a best-seller
and is still making headlines.
Wornat said she was impressed by Chavez, showing off
the reporter's notebook that he autographed and in
which he called her a comrade. Wornat said she also
met with Chavez's inner circle — Cabinet members,
his ex-wives, lovers and even his psychiatrist. Wornat
describes Chavez as "a very charismatic person
… very seductive … like Fidel [Castro]
but much younger."
"I know Hugo Chavez very well," she said
on "Exclusiva." "I have investigated
Hugo Chavez. Hugo Chavez is a pragmatist, very sensitive.
… He looks you in the eyes and recites poetry.
He's very simpatico. But at the same time he's a man
that you can talk to about theology, you can talk
to him about politics. He's very well read."
"I spoke to his psychiatrist, Dr. Chirino,"
she said. "He's the president's psychiatrist
in Venezuela. Venezuela is a very colorful country
with lots of surrealism. … What could be absurd
in another country — to speak to the psychiatrist
of the president, in Venezuela you actually speak
to the psychiatrist of the president. He said Hugo
Chavez is bipolar and takes Prozac … He sleeps
very little. … three or four hours … There
are times he gets very depressed and when he does,
he disappears and no one knows where he has gone,"
she said.
But where does the president go when he disappears?
No one really knows, according to Wornat. But, she
said, he could take refuge at the home of a lover.
Wornat said she spoke to one of his former lovers
— and perhaps the love of Chavez's life —
Herma Marsksman, whose relationship with Chavez lasted
more than 20 years. "I saw the letters he wrote
her, in his handwriting, and they were very corny
but very much in love," said Wornat.
Lover, Psychiatrist Describe Chavez as Abusive,
Bipolar
"Herma Marksman also confirmed that he is bipolar
and takes medication," said Wornat. "She
said he was bipolar since he was a teen."
When Chavez has a period of depression, Wornat said,
he sometimes will just stay in bed. "He could
have a high of euphoria and the following week feel
like he was in a deep depression. So he'd go from
feeling like a king to feeling like he was in the
dark," she said.
But Marksman may not have been the most important
woman in Chavez's life. That place, said Wornat, is
likely reserved for his grandmother. He loved his
grandmother, she said. "I think she was the person
he loved the most. The one person that most influenced
him," she said. "I read the letters he wrote
Herma, his lover, in which he spoke about how he had
to forget the abuse of his mother and father."
Despite his difficult childhood, Chavez maintains
a relationship with his parents, Wornat said. He was
born in the state of Barinas, and his parents are
the "royal family" of the state, she added.
He may enjoy poetry and writing love letters, but
Chavez is a dangerous man in Wornat's eyes.
"Chavez is a dangerous man. He is a head of state
who can make a decision in a state of euphoria or
in a deep depression. So suddenly he can invite the
ayatollahs of Iran or the president of Iran to challenge
Bush. I think those attitudes that he has can be even
more dangerous than whether he has his brother or
family in government," Wornat said. There is
only one person on the world stage who holds sway
over Chavez, according to Wornat. "Fidel is the
only one. Fidel is like his dad. Fidel is the only
one who can make him change his opinion," she
said.
In "Accursed Chronicles," Wornat also describes
Chavez as having a love for the high life —
and a violent streak.
Wornat said Chavez loves fine Italian suits, has a
collection of fine jewelry and watches, and has spent
$65 million on a private airbus jet.
Wornat also spoke with Chavez's ex-wife for the book.
"Her relationship with Chavez was a very bad
one, very turbulent … he would hit her,"
she said.
A Desire for Martyrdom?
Chavez has said he believes the U.S. Central Intelligence
Agency has been plotting to kill him. Wornat said
she thinks he may have a desire to be assassinated.
"I think deep inside he wants to be killed and
become a martyr like the Che [Guevara]. And to be
loved by the millions and to have a marvelous funeral
with millions of Venezuelans running beside his funeral
carriage. And he'd become a myth which is what he'd
love. But what does Chavez do if oil revenues fall?
How does he maintain power while giving all the neighboring
countries money? And giving away fistfuls of money
the way that he is to the poor Venezuelans? What happens
when that ends? The poor Venezuelans will go after
him."
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